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Subject: Have I been Astro-beguiled? Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 20:15:23 From: John Edelmann (edelmann@hcst.net) Greetings. I've not contributed any questions or comments for years, but would like to provide a general observation about the experiences of one [very] amateur astronomer who has accumulated what seems to be a small observatory and the related accessories since the fall of 2002 and am now wondering if I hadn't ought to consider selling everything on Ebay... I'll try to remain focused so as not to bore anyone overly ... of course you can always simply ignore this post in any event. And so we begin (at the beginning, of course): In 2002, I won a $750 cash award from then Compaq Computer Corporation, in the line of duty as a computer consultant on a contract for the Dept. of Defense. I purchased a $500 wireless weather system actually, in July of 2002, but returned it when I realized that I already had a non-wireless weather system, but which was not in working order. I got it working, and it is STILL running fine (see www.johnedelmann.com/weather.html ) and so, I decided to purchase a "big" telescope. My rationale was simple: never before did I have this much $ to spend on something other than hardware, appliances, or other necessities, or which was "free and clear" to be used as I (and not my wife) saw fit. A really "good" telescope represents a sizable outlay of cash, and I didn't think I was likely to have this much money amassed at one time for such an endeavor again. I might add, that my now deceased father had built a small hobby telescope; a refractor, some 6 ft long. It was a square concern, not round, and worked admirably well - at least until I lost the main lens. Oops. At any rate, I often said in the years to come, that my Dad would have really loved to have seen my pursuit of astronomical endeavors. With the refund in hand (+ a sizable amount of discretionary capital) I purchased a Meade LX55 from the Discovery Channel store first, in Sept of 2002. However, it was back ordered until Feb 2003 (!). This was normal, I was told. Bag that I said. I cancelled that order, and looked at the more pricey ETX line instead. The 125EC with UHTC caught my attention as a likely candidate. Plus, as I found, it had its own privately managed website of champions (thanks Mike) and there was a wealth of very candid and helpful information out there to help bolster its cause. And there wasn't nearly the long wait time as for the LX series. (I had to use the Discovery Channel Store because they were one of the few stores that were in the "Compaq Award Program" at the time.) SO, I ordered the ETX125 and it arrived in mid November, 2002. $990 was the price. This included like 6 $10 Discovery Channel gift certificates, but alas, it was dead on arrival, because the flip mirror had fallen off the mount and was loose inside the business end of the thing. Argh!! I returned it to Meade; and meanwhile, the Discovery Channel Store (DCS) had refunded me my shipping fee because of the initial delay with ordering the LX55. Then, even though Meade had express details of when/how to return it to me, they failed to send it where I wanted it to be sent (following repairs) so the DCS gave me a complementary $50 set of color filters in lieu of my troubles. So, I finally got to *USE* the telescope in January 2003. Now the fun part starts. I did manage to qualify for the fabulous $99.00 six piece 4000 Series Plossl Eyepiece 30th Anniversary deal at the time ... so I got that. Then, in February of 2003, DCS had a special where you buy a Meade telescope, and you get a deluxe tripod for free! Such a deal. Bummer. I had already ordered my telescope. Besides, while waiting arrival of the scope, I had built a fine elliptical mount using the plans from the ETX website, out of stainless steel tubing and other bits and pieces of hardware lying around. I think I had way more fun just acquiring the pieces and parts I felt were necessary - forget actually looking at anything! But, not to be outdone, I called DCS and explained the situation, and lo ! they agreed to send me not the deluxe tripod, nay nay, but rather the advanced tripod (887), with the elliptical mount accessory included (as long as I paid the tax). So now I had more than $1000 (or an actual value of nearly $1900) in the endeavor, which continued to grow, because I *had* to have the heated dew clip, the Meade dew shield, a dual beam flashlight, a variable polarizing filter, the 25ft. Auto power cord, the JMI Instafocus Motofocus (Scopetronix), the Vibration Pads, and heck, why not Dr. Clay's Cleaning Kit ? For Christmas, my mother-in-law got me the Autostar. Now I had it all. So now we're up to about $1600 invested. Now keep in mind, all during this time, my use of the telescope consisted of brief forays with friends and others when we had the chance, to view Jupiter, Saturn, the Ring Nebula (my favorite) and the moon of course. Problem was, and perhaps others reach this point sooner or later, I was at a point where the viewing operation, which included the time (which really was minimal) to get the scope out, fire her up, and have it pointing at things I'd already seen numerous times, simply started losing the glamour that originally inspired me to pursue a hobby in astronomy in the first place. Alas, there I was, with a fairly costly, professional-grade scope, with not much motivation to get it out, given life's other distractions and priorities, that all seem to surface in the evening, on nights when the seeing is good, and the temperatures are fair. Enter Astrophotography! Because, you know, those neat pics that folks contribute are great! I knew right then, that if I could at least generate a few coolpix or other shots of Saturn, and see the separation of the rings with my 125EC, heck, I'd finally be able to salvage a fair amount of self respect for having sunk $1600+ in this "endeavor". At least that was the plan. So, thru 2004-2007, I added $400 worth of step rings, a Nebular filter, and the Scopetronix MaxView40 for my Minolta dImage200 Digital Camera (which, by the way, doesn't work too well with the eye piece adapter because it won't stay zoomed out; the weight of the camera is too great for the zoom apparatus, and it "unzooms"), and, of course, the "webcam" adapter. As it turned out, though, none of these additions successfully rearranged my priorities for me, and the telescope saw even less use. From September 2007 thru September 2008 I used it . ONCE. So, now I have arrived at the dilemma that perhaps we all end up with at one time or another. Can an ETX125EC telescope really keep an adult occupied for the "foreseeable future", or is astronomy unlike other disciplines for the following reasons: 1) once you've seen the planets that are visible with the ETX 125, you've seen the planets you can see with the ETX125. 2) seeing deep sky objects like nebulas and the like are cool for a while, but after you've seen the few that really stand out, trying your luck with different degrees of "seeing" is a bit like playing cat and mouse; and finally, 3) the only way to really alter your experience of things astronomical, is to view them differently (i.e., different hardware, different scope) which means more $. Contrast this to, say, wine making. Every season brings new vintages, new fruit, and new ways to modify the art; what was nice and dry one season, may be so so, but sweet the next. But from year to year, Jupiter really doesn't change all that much, nor does Venus (the phases notwithstanding). And short of photo rendering of multiple digital images, the clarity of the various galaxies and nebula only yields a limited amount of diversity. So whereas many hobbies can be revisited time and time again, with new experiences, etc., astronomy seems to me, to be a bit beguiling, in that it has sizable startup expenses, but once you've invested in your hardware, you're sort of stuck with what you have. Only then do you begin to wonder if $2000 or more invested in a bunch of hi-tech imaging hardware (and software) hasn't lost its initial alluring nature. And so, here I am, in what seems to be the autumn of my love affair with my ETX125, only to wonder if it hasn't attained the boring caliber of a fine coin collection: really cool to talk about, and especially to show off occasionally, but otherwise, primarily a financial investment that really isn't appreciating all that much (in interest or money). So, all of this drivel simply leads to one profound question: Does my 6 year affair with my fabulous little 125 mm telescope end with an ebay sale, or do I donate it to a struggling school, in the hopes that it will find a more appreciative home, or do I redouble my efforts to reconsider what it is I have already, and try to rekindle that vestige of child-like excitement at having a really cool Meade telescope that brought me to the ETX family in the first place? I do admit that my one lone daughter has not helped matters much. She's not destined to be an astronomer (nor a meteorologist, nor, thankfully, a chemist with pyrotechnical tendencies (like me)), so there is scarcely any cheerleading from that sector to engage in looking at the night sky. I am only 46 years old. Let's suppose I decide when I'm RETIRED that I would have TIME to look to the heavens and most properly conclude my interests thereof. So do I mothball the ETX125 until "then" or sell it all now, because, in 20 years, one has to hope that even Meade will get their act together better than it is now, and fashion telescopic marvels that [today] would make us ETX brethren collectively faint in one large international pile? I could donate it, and take a nearly $2800 (the actual dollar value of my equipment if "purchased separately") tax right off, I suppose. But would the school really appreciate it? Is there a list of schools somewhere seeking astronomical assistance from misfit donors who have outgrown their interest in the field? As you may have guessed, I did only recently bring out the scope for a seafood fondue event this past Saturday evening. I don't know. It just seemed that ETX telescopes and seafood fondue somehow seemed to go together. The folks were mesmerized by the closeness of the craters on the moon, and the ability to actually see features on the surface of Jupiter (not to mention the four moons). And that without even having the benefit of the autostar! (I had inadvertently misplaced the cable!) I still don't know where my instafocus control unit is .!) I do admit that it is a neat instrument, capable of winning over the excited hearts of nearly any who haven't looked in the business end of a fine optical piece before. So perhaps I'll not sell it right away. But I am wondering if I really am getting my money's worth, or if I simply fell prey to the consumer chasm of material want trumping realistic need.? If you stayed tune this long . well, gosh. Thanks! I hesitate to hope to that it was worth it. I'd be interested in any comments, pleas, or other thoughts on this matter in the hope that I get back on the right comet trail here, or at the very least, appreciate better what it is that I have. And as always, clear skies everyone . John EdelmannMike here: Well, there IS a universe of things that can be viewed and photographed through any small telescope. Of course, expectations can seriously influence how happy you are with what you see and do. That said, there is more to just looking at objects if you want to expand your universe. Take measurements (colors or double stars), learn how to draw the objects you see, monitor variable stars, study craters on the moon, track asteroids, and so much more. There is a LOT that can be done and there are even contributions to science that amatuer astronomers can make. It just takes enthusiam, patience, and a willingness to gain experience. If you are no longer excited about astronomy then sell or donate the system and take up some other hobby.
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Thanks ... enthusiasm (happily) isn't the problem ... otherwise I wouldn't keep finding new accessories to try to make it more interesting. It's probably patience and time that is at issue. And ... I don't think taking up another hobby would go over so well ! I (like many I'm sure) have a lot on my plate already. For now, I think I'll hang in there, and make sure to bring it out more often for myself, and when guests are around. It will be interesting to see if any of your esteemed contributors might also have any insights to share... Thanks!! John.Mike here: Yes, having time to enjoy ANY hobby can be a challenge. The next thing about amateur astronomy when having a small, easy to set up telescope like the ETX, is that it can be enjoyed while minimal preparation.
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